Published on October 16, 2004 By d3adz0mbie In International
Think Saddam was contained? Think he wasn't a terrorist? Do you think, in any fashion, that the Iraq war was a mistake?

More Iraqi mass graves
"The head of the unit, Greg Kehoe, who has seen more than his share of horrors in places such as the Balkans, couldn’t believe what he saw.
"I’ve never seen women and children executed, defenseless people executed in this fashion," he said. "I mean, you look at a young woman holding her 2-year-old child with a gunshot wound to the back of the head. I can’t find any reason to justify that."
When I saw the images I could only think back to Hilla, a town south of Baghdad where I went in the spring of 2003, just after the fall of Saddam. A mass grave of Iraqi Shiites was discovered there.
I will never forget it for as long as I live. Thousands of bodies. Thousands of families swarming over piles of clothing and flesh. Earth-moving equipment digging through the raw humanity. Digging up the past."

Tell the dead children "wrong war, wrong time". Tell the dead mothers "blood for oil". Tell the sons, daughters and fathers of the dead that removing Saddam was a "colossal failure of judgment."

Go ahead, I dare you.

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on Oct 17, 2004
it seems as though the problem with Iraq is....the left are looking at the situation in Iraq as the finished product.....What is going on in Iraq is not the end....things will get better there....so long as we don't give up and turn tail and run away.

on Oct 17, 2004

Reply #59 By: Freak Caliz - 10/17/2004 7:49:25 PM
Wasn't the reason we went to find WMd's, but once we got there, we found out we'd been lied to so now it's "to liberate them"


Have you been paying attention lately? They have found over 2 dz. Foxbats MIG 25's (high performance fighter jets capable of over 2000 MPH and a 75,000 ft ceiling) buried in the sand around
Al Taqqadum airfield. Now if Saddam had these buried it only stands to reason there are other things he didn't want us to find.
BTW don't try and tell me that these were left over from the Gulf War. These A/C with the modifications present did not exsist back then.
on Oct 17, 2004
They have found over 2 dz. Foxbats MIG 25's (high performance fighter jets capable of over 2000 MPH and a 75,000 ft ceiling) buried in the sand around Al Taqqadum airfield.


Interesting way of hiding them. Wouldn't a plane be badly damaged by being buried underneath the baking sands? I'm surprised the US didn't pick up the earthworks on the satellites, although I guess you can't watch everything.
on Oct 17, 2004

Reply #63 By: cactoblasta - 10/17/2004 8:14:53 PM
They have found over 2 dz. Foxbats MIG 25's (high performance fighter jets capable of over 2000 MPH and a 75,000 ft ceiling) buried in the sand around Al Taqqadum airfield.


Interesting way of hiding them. Wouldn't a plane be badly damaged by being buried underneath the baking sands? I'm surprised the US didn't pick up the earthworks on the satellites, although I guess you can't watch everything.


I know I'm going to catch it for this but, I'm going to link to a NewsMax page.

Link

on Oct 17, 2004
I agree, it seems a bad place to hide aircraft. Also, I do believe it has been concluded there were no WMD's and there was no capacity to produce them.
on Oct 17, 2004

Reply #65 By: sandy2 - 10/17/2004 8:26:03 PM
I agree, it seems a bad place to hide aircraft. Also, I do believe it has been concluded there were no WMD's and there was no capacity to produce them.


The conclusions maybe false is what I'm trying to say. Go read the article. BTW under the sand would be a *perfect* place to hide an A/C. There are only 2 major things to worry about in A/C preservation. Moisture and dust. Being in the desert kind of takes care of the first and if they were sealed correctly during placement then the 2nd is taken care of also.
on Oct 17, 2004
There's no point telling the dead children anything. It's far to late to them. Would you also apologise to them for the USA supplying their former dictator with the means to oppress them and murder them? I don't think you would somehow.

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country"

Hermann Wilhelm Göring said that. And we all know what a nice chap he was.

on Oct 17, 2004
Yes, it's very hard to say to grieving family members that their loved ones death didn't accomplish much. Unfortunatly that is the case. The people of Iraq might benifit from Sadam being gone in 10 years but as far as quelling terrorim several reports have clearly stated that is has aided Al Queda in recruiting and fund raising.


Apparently not to hard for yourself to say it, we should send you door to door to those who have lost family over there.

Do you know all the ultimate outcomes for every action? Since from your comment you do tell me what are the consequences of not protecting our Liberty when Kerry and Bush have said or done nothing to protect it?


on Oct 17, 2004
Also, I do believe it has been concluded there were no WMD's and there was no capacity to produce them.


Actuall, the final reports say that there might have been a medium grade capacity to produce biological weapons. He wasn't producing them though. I wish we would go after a country I know that provides more money for terrorists than any other, Saudi Arabia. Bush mentioned that Sadam was giving $25,000 for each suicide bombers family, umm...... if that is a reason to invade Iraq than Saudi Arabia must be in huge trouble. They've been giving more money to palistinian "charaties" over the years than anyone else. Almost all funding for Al Queda comes from Saudi Arabia too and thier "crackdown" leaves much to be desired. The royal family is more converned with using the war on terrorism as an excuse to fight internal enemies than stop terrorist and money from flowing out. Any President who even cared about doing the right thing would get tough with them. I don't know why Bush isn't either, he would score MAJOR points in the election, Saudi Arabia is very unpopular and everyone knows what is going on there.
on Oct 17, 2004

Reply #67 By: Bell end - 10/17/2004 8:32:45 PM
There's no point telling the dead children anything. It's far to late to them. Would you also apologise to them for the USA supplying their former dictator with the means to oppress them and murder them? I don't think you would somehow


Apparently we were not the only ones suppling weapons.
on Oct 17, 2004
Apparently we were not the only ones suppling weapons


And that makes it ok? Kind of like a "he started it" playground excuse isn't it?
Is that all you can say about it? I would laugh if it wasn't so scary.
on Oct 17, 2004
Wasn't the reason we went to find WMd's, but once we got there, we found out we'd been lied to so now it's "to liberate them"


Read the Iraq War Resolution passed on 10-10-2002. The answer is partly, other reasons delineated are to Remove Saddam and establish a Democratic government, to stop the repression of the Iraqi people, to enforce the Security Council Resolutions (some of which were the terms of the cease-fire) and because Saddam was a threat to peace and security in the Persian Gulf.
on Oct 17, 2004
Sorry famamies, there were no weapons we said were there. That is a fact. The basis for the war was wrong


Sorry you are uninformed. It is apparent you do not know the entire basis for the war (except the Democrat talking point).
on Oct 17, 2004
Citizen T B sounds to me like the Bushites lied to the public and did it for osmething not in the document, oil.
on Oct 17, 2004
Reply #71 By: Bell end - 10/17/2004 8:42:31 PM
Apparently we were not the only ones suppling weapons


And that makes it ok? Kind of like a "he started it" playground excuse isn't it?
Is that all you can say about it? I would laugh if it wasn't so scary.


Get a grip! I never said it was okay now did I?

This is what my reply was for! If you want to tear my posts apart, please make sure you have all the correct information.
Would you also apologise to them for the USA supplying their former dictator with the means to oppress them and murder them? I don't think you would somehow


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